I find this as a joke. The number of samples, for such a diverse picture, are so small, even in cases of more than 1000.
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Yordan Sext Empiric 4 years ago see moreYou are correct in most of the cases, anyway there is more than one study on the topic, and they are concluding based on all of the studies, that if this study getting frequently the same results as the rest of the previous studies therefore there is no need of more sampling.
Hygelac 3 years ago see moreSweden numbers from FTDNA Swedish DNA group. Sample size is 4626. I've removed all from the sample with known paternal origin not from Sweden (almost 1000 samples).
I1 43,84%
R1b 20,13%
R1a 16,73%
N 7,54%
I2 4,47%
Q 2,62%
G 1,90%
E 1,40%
J 1,05%EHaas814 3 years ago see moreMaciamo, you could also update Slovakia.
There was a study done in 2009. Quite thorough. 250 samples.
E1b1b- 7%
J1- 1%
J2- 2.5%
I1- 8%
I2- 20%
G- 4%
R1a- 38%
R1b- 13%
H- 2.5%
Q- 1%
N- 2.5%
T- .5%
Link: https://www.jstage.jst.go.j...
Gilgamesh 4 years ago see moreBefore Bronze age, the dominants Y haplogroup in Western were CT,G2a,I1,I2,E1b1b.
After Bronze age,R1b became dominant in Western Europe,R1b carriers killed all others haplogroups carriers.bubibuLo13 Gilgamesh 4 years ago see moreThere was nothing like C, T, G, E ... in Europe, north Africa and west Middle East before autochthonous settled peasant white indoeuropean arian R1a, R1b, I2 and I1. In West Europe was R1b ( 14 000 b.c. ) thousands of years before your C, T, G ... . R1b, R1a, I2, I1 are aboriginal white Indoeuropean Arian.
GiGi713 6 years ago edited see moreRomania y chromosome haplogroups add up to 102%, please correct these figures.
Mikhailovich GiGi713 6 years ago see moreThe numbers are rounded to half a percent. There are 12 haplogroups. So, hypothetically, it is possible. If actual number in 10 haplogroups was 0.2% less, it would make 2% more than actual number.
For example: 10.3+10.3+10.3=30.9 while rounded to half a percent, it is 10.5+10.5+10.5=31.5%.
EHaas814 3 years ago edited see moreYou should update the English numbers to the numbers here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
From the FTDNA project. 2000 or so samples. That's a lot.
R1b: U106=19 L21=12 U152=6 DF27=6 DF19=1 others=13 - 57%
R1a: 4%
I1: 16 %
I2: 9 %
E1b1b: 3%
J2: 3%
J1: 1%
G: 5%
Numbers look real good based upon studies I've seen before.Mishka 5 years ago see moreAccording to this table,Algerians have at least 10% of "Europeans" paternal lineage (R1b and R1a), 27% west asian paternal lineage (J1 & J2),0.5% of caucasian lineage (G2) and 0.5% of east asian lineage and 59% of afro-asiatic lineage (E (mostly E-M215 subclade)).
It was a big surprise for me when 23andme find that i am E-V13 carrier inherited from my Algerian Dad (the most common subclade in north west Africa is E-M81,the dominant Berber marker)...Ben Mzabi Mishka 4 years ago see moreRemember Today's Algeria was conquered by various European Empires for centuries.
Yordan Mishka 4 years ago see moreE is not "afro" lineage. It might looks like, but it is more or less just part of the Homo Sapiens tree. How far the ancestors have branch in the tree, it is not specific marker for a ethnic group if you understand me..
Don Heus Guest 7 years ago see moreAcoording to this list iran is mixed arabic people, asians and africans,
Kurti Don Heus 4 years ago edited see moreyup just like your Führer was E1b according to your logic a Afro-Asiatic guy.
But that is not how Haplogroups work. They predate ethnic groups and nations by 10 thousand of years. J1 is not Arabic. J1 p58 is the most common subgroup found among Semites and yet not even all of P58 is Semite. J2. Q and J2 were also found among Steppe and Central Asian populations. And not all R Haplogroups are European lol they probably originate somewhere in Central Asia and already existed in the Middle East before the Indo European expansion. And the same goes for all the other Haplogroups.
ncknck Don Heus 6 years ago see moreIran is, as you can plainly see, 35.5% European (R,I,G), 8.5% Arabic(J1) and 6.5% Asian( N,Q)
Slumbery ncknck 6 years ago see more"Iran is, as you can plainly see, 35.5% European (R,I,G), 8.5% Arabic(J1) and 6.5% Asian( N,Q)"
G is not an European YHg by origin. Most likely it arrived to Europe from Asia Minor in the early Neolithic. We actually have 7700 years old G2a (the branch that is the majority of modern European G) from Iran and an even older G2b (a lineage that only occurs in Europe in groups with Middle-Eastern origin, like Jews). G is a West Asian lineage.
R is also not an European lineage by origin (it is probably Siberian/Central Asian), but the majority of extant R1a and R1b is probably European, so I agree that modern R1a and R1b in Iran most likely came from Europe at some point (not necessarily directly).
It is kind of weird that you call N and Q "Asian" in the context of their origin in Iran. It is not very informative, since Iran itself is in Asia, so anything that is indigenous in Iran and its neighborhood is also Asian.Also the Y chromosome is just a small part of the entire genome and its frequency can be significantly detached from overall ancestry ratios. So 25% European YDNA (I, R1a, R1b) does not mean that 25% of the ancestors of modern Iranians lived in Europe at any point of the past or even that modern Iranians have 25% accumulated European ancestry from multiple migrations and gene flow.
NOVAGuy Slumbery 5 years ago edited see more"I" it's not European HG neither, but I2/I1 are, these are the one"born" in europe, while "I" is native of south Turkey/Levant....
So for "G", "R" or even "R1" - they are not! But R1b, R1a, they are.
E1b1b is not - but E-v13 it is, for the same reasons R1b/R1a/I1/i2b/ are.I1 is the second generation HG of Europe, R1b and later e-v13 are "1st" generation HGs.
Now YDNA is 2% only of our DNA...... :)
Kurti NOVAGuy 4 years ago see more" "I" it's not European HG neither, but I2/I1 are, these are the one"born" in europe, while "I" is native of south Turkey/Levant...."
ancestrial clade IJ* was found on the Iranian Plateau considering that IJ split from K the Zagros area or a little further North and West is the most likely place of origin for I*
ncknck Slumbery 5 years ago see moreYour comment is 20 times bigger than mine, consider that i wrote one sufficiently generalized sentence. The OP doesn't include R for obvious reasons, so it should be clear what i mean from the context. Same goes for the rest, the OP discusses specifically ydna and so do i, so you are coming off quite nitpicky, but ye, not necessarily wrong of course.
ScurrFace Don Heus 6 years ago see morehow so? Iran completely seperates it from the other middle eastern countries with having the lowest percentage for J1a and E. But having the highest percentage of R1a and G.
Mikhailovich ScurrFace 6 years ago see moreJ1 is highest in Avars and J2 is highest in Ingushs. They are not Arab, they are North Caucasian. Obviously, J1 and J2 penetrated in North Caucasus before Arab language.
Arab language started from Egypt together with the first civilisation, first state and first empire. All North Africa and the coasts of Mediterranean and Black Seas were colonised by Egyptian Arabs about one thousand years ago (First Roman Empire). Most likely, Arab language started in Nile valley with E. In Europe Arab language later was replaced by Latin. In Russia, Arab language was in use until 17century.bubibuLo13 Mikhailovich 5 years ago see moreBoth J1 and J2 is modern occupant import everywhere out of it´s homeland territory in Saudi Arabia and Yemen.
Out of Arabian penninsula it covers the territory conquered by primitive barbarian Saudi Arabian or Turkotatarian mohamedan nomadic raiders between 7 - 19th cent. a.c.
It has origin in saudi arabian mohamedan primitive barbarian raids since 7th cent. a.c. and those nations which have it are mostly descendants of Saudi Arabian nomadic barbarian mohamedan 7 - 18th cent. raiders including Chechens or TurkoAlbans in Europe.
Less % is from Semitic nomadic barbarian ancient raiders like Babylonians, Akkadians ... and rest is from jewish slave traders which rapped local women which they bought into slavery.Mikhailovich bubibuLo13 5 years ago see moreFair stories about barbarian conquering the civilised people were invented in 16-17 centuries. In reality it was always other way round - the civilised people colonised the uncivilised. J1 and J2 are much older than the first civilisation. Primitive people moved from the south to Caucasus before the civilisation. J1 and J2 people in Caucasus talk different language because they never were part of Roman (Egyptian) Empire.
Kurti Mikhailovich 4 years ago see morewe literally have a mesolithic Keralian sample from Russia that belongs to J1 Haplogroup. Yet here we are people arguing that J1 is of Arabian origin because a bottlenecked version of it (P58) spred around in the Arabian Peninsula and the Levant.
bubibuLo13 Mikhailovich 5 years ago see moreNo. Spreading J1 and J2 out of Saudi Arabia and Yemen where it originate ( Socotra ) cover almost for 100% territory conquered by Saudi Arabian and later Turkotatarian mohamedan nomadic barbarian raiders since 7th cent. a.c. Less it is from arabic, turkotatarian or jewish merchants or mostly their slave traders. It´s modern.
Chechens, Ingush, TurkoAlbans ... are those Saudi Arabian descendants.
Most of those J1 and J2 Saudi Arabian mohamedan nomadic barbarian raiders like Chechens, Cherkess ... were nomadic shepherds till 20th cent. opposite of settled peasant christian aboriginal caucasian Armenians or Georgians.
At " Jews " it´s problem coz it´s just primitive barbarian oriental nomadic barbarian criminal fascist racist satanic sect which can worship everybody.
SS sturmbannfuhrer Netanyahu is Venetian Slav similar like 50% of their second ruling caste Ashkenazy Khazar Levites.
Civilized people never colonized uncivilized because colonization is feature of primitivism barbarism and crime as it was in ancient white indoeuropean arian Vedas or at Venetian Slavs originally practicing Vedas too.
Just stronger aggressive nations conquered those weaker non-aggressive. Mongols were not more civilized than Russians, Assyrians than Elam, Turkotatarians than Bysantines, Normans than Anglosaxons ....
Original semitic J1 and J2 people are till now primitive barbarian desert homadic shepherds like Beduins. Their descendants Habiru-Hyksos ( " Sephardi Jews " ), Arabs, Akkadians, Babylonians .... originally too.
Similar it is with african black E DNA which have till primitive barbarian nomadic steppe shepherds or nomadic barbarian jungle hunter-gatherers.
So agriculture and sedentary way of life came from ancient middleuropean Venetian Slavs and not from till now nomadic shepherd Semites J or Africans E.NOVAGuy bubibuLo13 5 years ago see moreMost Slavs come from Haplogroup I, its birthplace is south turkey. 25K ago.
J origin is basically same place 20K ago.
So R1a origin is in western euro-asia.
E1b1b ~8-10K is found in Kurdistan, following same route from Levant ~10K year ago.Pls don't prove that Nazis were right about slavs ...... not much to brag about it being one..... more or less same routes as semitic or J, all 15-20K ago.... in the meantime, no white man has ever walked on earth ~8k-10K year ago.
Here is how europeans looked just 10K year ago.
Imagine 25K year ago how people of "I"-hg may have looked when they were in West asia.https://wgntv.com/2018/02/0...
Not to mention, that "blue" eyes and "red" hair DNA may have been taken from neanderthalers
NOVAGuy bubibuLo13 5 years ago edited see moreSerbs had large continuous armies serving Ottomans armies, since Bayazid's time, which contributed I2a, J1b, E-V13
As for the J1/J2, mostly J2b is found in southern europe.
Lailah Seraphina Don Heus 3 years ago edited see moreThe only iranian person I ever met was caucasian and she literally looked like Snow White. As far as I know, iranians are persians. And persians are mostly caucasian.
Turkish are the ones who are arabic. The only turkish person I ever met looked arabic, with dark skin, wavy black hair and amazing bright turquoise eyes you could see from afar.
Also it's impossible for European and Asian people to have African genes because black people were locked in subsaharian Africa for millenia and didn't come to the rest of the world until very recently.
The track of African blood outside of subsaharian Africa is very small. They are also the people who reproduce the less, specially in America, were black women have the most abortions. Chinese are the ones who reproduce the most.
zoe Lailah Seraphina a year ago see moreThere are no Arabs on the genetic approximation list of Anatolian Turks.
And Persians are mostly descendants of indigenous locals - Iran Copper Age + Proto Iranic populations up to 90%, lowest 57%.
Der Führer Don Heus 5 years ago see moreAnd there's a perfect example of what diversity does to a nation if i ever needed one !
Der Führer Julius Caesar 5 years ago see moreThanks emperor, i was on vacation and not here sadly ...
New Israel is Muslims Don Heus 7 years ago see moreThank you Don for setting the record straight. Syria has about as much aryans (R1) as Iran. And the "white" nationalists hate the Syrian migrants. Do they hate the supposed "aryan" Iranians too?
Lailah Seraphina New Israel is Muslims 3 years ago see moreThere is a Syrian girl who has a youtube channel and she is caucasian AF blue eyes white skin blonde hair and all.
Der Führer New Israel is Muslims 5 years ago edited see moreHello Rabbi
I can see you are hard at work "enlightening" the goyim as always, but there's a saying: "Wearing a dog turd doesn't make you a dog !"Y-DNA is DNA stored in a male's Y chromosome which exists only in male species, it gets passed down from father to son no matter what the rest of your genetic composure is, it's just a birthmark, so that being said and taking into account that Middle East was completely white before your tribe of swarthy parasites invaded from Africa and "enriched" it thousands of years ago, this is the reason why Europid haplogroups such as Haplogroups R and I still exist in ME .
But it makes no difference, when 99% of your blood is ugliness, curly hair, sub-80 IQ , autism and savagery you should never come in the same sentence with the word Aryan
ScurrFace New Israel is Muslims 6 years ago see moresyrians have 30% J1a tho. Iranians only have 8,5%
Palermo Trapani Don Heus 5 years ago see moreWhere do you see Haplogroups A00, A0, A1A or A1b1 or B in Iran. And I am not of Iranian ancestry. I see E, but that is likely E1b1b, which is the dominate Haplogroup of the Natufian civilization, the first farmers. It is clearly not E2, which is the dominate Haplogroup of the Nilotic Peoples (tallest and darkest complexion in the world) nor E1a pr E1b1a. which are sub-clades of E that mutated in Sub-saharan Africa. Where the Founder E mutated is unclear likely Red Sea region either Ethiopia or Arabia, but Iran I would predict is E1b1b.
Calle Sacana Guest 6 years ago see moreWhat do you support your thesis on? I see only 15,5% R1a among the Farsi. Indeed you speak an indo-European language but genetically u pretty much mixed up. Compare the polish people 58% R1a
Bullybasch Tramp Mikhailovich 4 years ago see moreNot all of them. The anti-semitic ones are allowed, the anti-atlantis/hunnic/canaanite ones are deleted.
Calle Sacana Mikhailovich 6 years ago see moreHi. Say in general terms what your comments were about
Mikhailovich Calle Sacana 6 years ago see moreNot only mine. All were deleted. Mine were about the history. For example, the genetic researches confirm the theory that there are were no Mongolian invasion to Central Russia. The Jews originally were a religious sect composed of different ethnic groups. So the story about the Jewish People is a fake. Traditional History, as we know it, was created in 16 century by Vatican.
